In a message dated 12/30/2004 12:31:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx writes: When the sire's owner (a GSD judge) came to evaluate them at that age, she concurred these indeed were the best two in the litter, she made a remark in passing about "oh don't worry their sire's father was totally down at 4 months of age and came up." +++++++++++++++++++++++++= Well Pat I don't quite remember it that way. I am sure I told you his sire was down in pastern when I saw him as a pup because I don't hide things. "Don't worry " no way did I say that because things like that upset me and I do worry To the best of my knowledge only two other dogs had problems with down pasterns out of Nasdaq >. I personally have never had one. If you had asked about pasterns before the breeding I would have told you what I knew. It is also quite possible the other two were from litters after yours. what being a judge has to do with your problem is being me Sally The House of Nasdaq ROM Ch's Seiko, Adam & Ex http://danann.netfirms.com http://www.freewebs.com/embroiderybysally ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================