[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: SchH is more than bitework
- From: "Liane Fossland" <lfossland@xxxxxxx>
- To: <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mickyadams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:32:59 -0700
That is so true. Years ago I sold a beautiful pup to a man, he did not want
to show but felt he wanted to do something with him so he was going to enter
him in obedience. I felt that was great, always liked obedience since you
can really bond with your dog. This puppy was not an alpha, actually more on
the soft side, and I told the man so. I was beyond myself when I found out
that this man had entered him in Schutzhund. This boy could not handle it
and eventually turned out to be a fear biter. Things like that can turn out
to be disastrous.
Lee F.
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From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Carolyn Martello
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 7:27 AM
To: mickyadams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: SchH is more than bitework
What a great post!!!
Not only is not every GSD a 'SchH potential dog' ....neither is every
owner!! Many of our American Bred
dogs fail and look bad to the trainers because the owners cannot "read"
them to know the potential is not
there on many. Some GSD's don't have the sheer drive nor the physical
ability nor the completely fearless
mind set for this grueling work.
It's the same with herding. Not every GSD ( though a herding Breed ) has
the ability to herd. The ability to
read sheep while learning from the training ....and the physical ability and
drive to move the sheep the way
that is necessary ( while learning and 'accepting the rules' <G> )
while following it's own instinct takes a
fearless and very "biddable" dog.
Same with agility. Some GSD do not have the mind set, the physical
ability or speed, nor do they know
where their feet are.
But above and beyond all this.......the owner also must have the "drive" to
get the dog trained or the ability
and drive to get the job done with a trainer. NONE of these venues are
easy and all take their toil in time,
money, effort and commitment!!!
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
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From: Micky To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 7:18
PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] SchH is more than bitework
I thought hard before I decided to offer up the following comments.
Please don't bother to beat me up privately..I'll just delete those emails
:)
It's a sensitive subject since both sides of the GSD world, and there are
really more than 2 sides.
No one wants to have their dogs insulted, denigrated or made light of the
amount of time & effort
you invest in your dogs. ut here are my thoughts about what I've read so
far.
First..SchH is much more than just bitework. It is 3 phases that take a
huge amount of time and
then you have to bring all 3 of those phases together in a 1 day period
and try to pass all 3.
Want to guess which phase is failed more times than others? I don't know
if it is still the tracking
but when I first heard that years ago I actually counted the trial results
and more failed because
of tracking than any other phase.
Second...not every dog can do SchH even with training. Not all dogs
have the drive and nerve to
be able to handle all the pressure and it's not fair to the dog to expect
something from it that it is not
suited for it's temperament. That is the same as saying every child can
sing opera if they are trained
and if you ever heard me sing you'd know that was wrong :)
This one is a pet peeve of mine because I see so many come out and the
expectation is so high they
don't enjoy their dog and find their strengths.
I liked what Carolyn said.
<<Would I ever spend the time to train a dog at that level if I had
one.......NAW......I'd rather be kayaking ......<G>>
I can only control what I say and I'll continue to enjoy both sides of the
sport with dogs and continue to
encourage those on both sides to do what their dogs are capable of and
enjoy it. After all that is what
we're all here about right?
I know the original point was whether GSDCA should/would/will support WDA
and how to go about it.
I don't have any answers there.
Micky Adams
http://www.imaginationframedphotography.com
http://www.newbeginningspottery.com
"Those without a sense of humor are at the mercy of the rest of us."
"Life is too short to wake up with regrets"
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