My gosh the voice of reason. Thank you. Bob Neiman / Walled Lake, Mich. Breeder/owner of UKC GR Ch.B'N'B-Barkalot's Cherish RN Co-owner of UKC ChSandyCreek-B'N'B-WC's Christmas Star AKA Echo Co-owner of Ketlyn's Black Widow --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Micky <mickyadams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Micky <mickyadams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] SchH is more than bitework To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:18 PM I thought hard before I decided to offer up the following comments. Please don't bother to beat me up privately..I'll just delete those emails :) It's a sensitive subject since both sides of the GSD world, and there are really more than 2 sides. Noone wants to have their dogs insulted, denigrated or made light of the amount of time & effort you invest in your dogs. But here are my thoughts about what I've read so far. First..SchH is much more than just bitework. It is 3 phases that take a huge amount of time and then you have to bring all 3 of those phases together in a 1 day period and try to pass all 3. Want to guess which phase is failed more times than others? I don't know if it is still the tracking but when I first heard that years ago I actually counted the trial results and more failed because of tracking than any other phase. Second...not every dog can do SchH even with training. Not all dogs have the drive and nerve to be able to handle all the pressure and it's not fair to the dog to expect something from it that it is not suited for it's temperament. That is the same as saying every child can sing opera if they are trained and if you ever heard me sing you'd know that was wrong :) This one is a pet peeve of mine because I see so many come out and the expectation is so high they don't enjoy their dog and find their strengths. I liked what Carolyn said. <<Would I ever spend the time to train a dog at that level if I had one.......NAW......I'd rather be kayaking ......<G>> I can only control what I say and I'll continue to enjoy both sides of the sport with dogs and continue to encourage those on both sides to do what their dogs are capable of and enjoy it. After all that is what we're all here about right? I know the original point was whether GSDCA should/would/will support WDA and how to go about it. I don't have any answers there. Micky Adams http://www.imaginationframedphotography.com http://www.newbeginningspottery.com "Those without a sense of humor are at the mercy of the rest of us." "Life is too short to wake up with regrets" ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================