Hi List, I have to write this because I am sooo ANGRY I am literally shaking. I dont know where to start with this--so I apologize cause this will probably be long. I sold a very pretty sable bitch at 4 months old to a friend who agreed to show her. My friend had her for a year. Justice will now be 2 yrs old in April. She has been shown probably about 7 times--won her class almost every time--nice moving and pretty, plushy little girl. My friend had lots of problems and got pregnant and called me about 4 months ago and asked if I would take her back. Of course I did. Justice is used to being the only female and being in the house with the kids and playing and having a family life. She cant do that here. I live alone--I have other females, including Justice's mother, sister and more family members-and so now Justice is not THE ONLY female here (like she was at my friends home) and since I work (and my friend didnt) and cant leave her loose in the house all day with my other girls, and of course dont want to leave her in the crate all day, she now has to go out in the kennel when I am not home. She comes in at nite and sleeps in a crate. She is not used to being in a kennel--she hates it. She jumps and leaps and jumps and leaps and barks all day and I am really trying to find her another home before she hurts herself in the kennel--hopefully I can sell her to someone who will show her. I CANNOT keep her. Have too many other females here. I have her advertised on the "GSD Showdogs for Sale" list that Teri Kridler has and in the paper here and last Sat. finally sold her on a co-ownership to a really nice family who are interested in showing her--they also have a Czech male who they would like to eventually breed her to--if both dogs OFA. (Interestingly--this male is 5 yrs old and has NOT been xrayed yet. hmmmm--but then--he is Czech--so of course he has good hips.) right??? duhhh. I dont normally EVER sell ANY of my dogs to be bred--unless to someone I know and approve of their breeding knowledge and practices but I decided to take the chance because she really needs to be in a home--and not a kennel--and these people seemed to be fairly knowledgable and I really liked the wife, Nancy. Her husband, Rick, seemed like the know it all macho type and I wasnt crazy about his know it all attitude--but all in all, decided to let them have her. He of course informed me when they first got here last week all about his Czechoslovakian male and showed me pic of him and his sire and dam and his pedigree. Handsome, black and red--square--but not roachy back--nice male. He also informed me that he knows "all about these American bred GSD with their sloping topline and angulation and that most of them have bad hips." He got my blood pressure up to about 900 and we had a discussion and looked at MANY pic of American dogs and their toplines and rears --and their OFA certifications, including many of the dogs in Justice's pedigree, most of which are show dogs and nearly ALL of which are OFA certified. (Kismet's Heart Throb, Caralands Limited Edition, etc etc--and lots of Erynbrook/Achtung breeding along with mine going back to Sundance Kid). Nice pedigree--Good stuff. Justice's mother had an injury to one hip as a pup and will not OFA--she is NOT dysplastic and has PRODUCED OFA in her other litter. both her parents are OFA. Justice's father was a couple months short of 2 yrs old when I bred him--I have since sold him and they have not xrayed him yet but..... both his parents are OFA. Other than Justices parents, the 2nd and 3rd generations back are SOLID OFA, in the 4th & 5th gen back there may be 3 dogs that are not OFA. We discussed this all and they (mostly Nancy) wanted her and wanted to get involved in showing her and her teen daughters are interested in Juniors. I need to get Justice in a home--I thought this would be a good home. I sold her. Because of Rick's sceptical attitude about American dogs and hips--I told them that they could get her xrayed and if she didnt pass--I would take her back and refund their money. I have a very good sales contract and I ALWAYS guarantee hips, along with temperment and health. I get a call from a very upset Nancy yesterday--their vet xrayed her--she has very bad hips and they want to bring her back. Nancy was almost in tears on the phone--she REALLY fell in love with Justice and really wants her--but of course her husband wants to bring her back. Of course I am devastated. I told her to make sure she brings the xrays--I WANT TO SEE THEM. I KNOW the stories I have heard from so many people about STUPID vets telling people their dogs have bad hips--only to send them in & find out there is nothing wrong and get OFA's cause the stupid vets cant position the dog right or read them right. She brought Justice back tonite--I refunded her the money. I took the xrays out of the envelope--and gasped. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HER HIPS. How could this vet tell them she has bad hips?? I SHOWED her the nice round head of the femur--the nice round socket--nice tight fit--nice looking hips--I showed her xrays I have here of several of my dogs--that are OFA--in fact I have an 11 yr old male who is OFA--and Justices xray is BETTER than his !!!!!!!! I compared xrays and showed her there is nothing wrong with these hips. I tried to explain to her and show her that Justices hips are NOT bad. WHAT IS WRONG WITH HER VET??? She obviously does not know how to read hip xrays--and of course Nancy believes her vet and not me--and finally left, almost in tears cause she really didnt want to bring her back. I am so ANGRY. Why are people SO STUPID????? why are some veterinarians so STUPID???? I am going to call the vet tomorrow and get a copy of the xrays and send them in to OFA. Then I will send these people a copy of the certificate from OFA-------And use it for the next time someone comes to buy her. they blew it--they wont get a second chance. Here is the link to see Justice on the GSD for Sale site. Show German Shepherds For Sale http://members.aol.com/showgsds4sale/ Cheri Hunt Cheradon Shepherds Home of Ch. Cheradon AchtungErynbrook Molokai, OFA H&E, TH, PA, CA, EYE CERT, TC, & GSDCA Certificate of Health Merit Excellent (AKA Ch. 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