I think I can give the board a job that honestly needs to be addressed unlike IMO our selects. How about advising the membership to only vote in event of their preference ie confirmation, herding, agility etc. In other words if only showing in confirmation you only vote for the judges in this event and leave the rest blank. That way it will stop people voting on name recognition alone. I personally never vote for a judge other than confirmation and do not feel I should because I really do not know them. This way we will get the judges {just maybe} that we want instead of the FL's. etc. Pat ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================