While appreciating all the pros and cons, And thinking it over deeply, it is my firm belief that a few words as you are excusing the class, handing out the ribbons, doing the last walk by, would do much for both the exhibitors and you, the judge. I remember all the judges that told me a few words, both positive and negative, appreciated their time, and I remember what they said. Never did argue with them or get in their face. Those that found time to fuss over the winners, but ignored the rest or the question of the handler is remembered, too. I don't think that the owner/handler/whomever's possible anger with correct and tactful comment is so prevalent that it should stop the encouraging or correcting words. I don't think that the fact that we should know our dogs shortcomings, therefore the judge shouldn't point it out is the answer. Why is one dog's shortcomings less attractive to the judge that the other? We are told that no dog is perfect, so explaining why this particular judge dislikes long feet more than lighter eyes will help us in the future, keep the long feet home, but take a chance on the lighter eyes with THAT Judge. We all keep notes on judges, and would like to have some real input, not guesswork. AKC discourages conversation with the exhibitors? What a rude way to take our money! And judges in ALL breeds are talking and commenting over the ring ropes, so it may be discouraged, but certainly isn't practiced. Just my opinion Stormy Hope *^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^* Dog's love is different, it requires no return www.FairhopeGSD.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================