[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Respect For Judges
- From: Randy Hamm <gsd4meee@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:11:58 -0700 (PDT)
Maybe we should just all stand there like robots!!!!!!!!!! Boy wouldn't that be
fun. You can have fun say HI to people and still be honest<G>
I'm not showing dogs or judging to be a robot.
Sometimes we win and sometimes not. Seems like some people want to take all the
fun out of it. There's already enough work involved especially for the clubs.
My last word on this
Randy Hamm
President GSDCO
One of the homes of
7 time BIS winner
CH VONHAMM BEDKAR LEATHER AND LACE (STEVIE)
And BISS winner
CH VONHAMM BEDKAR SHE'S ALL MINE (MINE)
--- On Tue, 9/23/08, James Barnhart <jim_barnhart@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: James Barnhart <jim_barnhart@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Respect For Judges
To: "gsd showlist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: gsd4meee@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 10:55 AM
I'm changing the subject line to better suit the discussion. This
post is replying to: Re: judgeing the dog on the day of the show:
On Sep 23, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Randy Hamm wrote:
"I can guarrentee you that all judges try to treat everyone with
respect." Trying is not always doing. I believe that specialty
judges should follow AKC Standards as it relates to deportment. You
go on to state: "It doesn't work both ways". I agree but the
judge
is the primary subject re: handler behavior, professional or
otherwise. I have seen judges not respond to harassment by handlers
that I would have sent to the Bench Committee. Easier said than done
for sure. You make the point that: "I would be willing to bet there
are more people fixing animals in one way or the other maybe a tooth a
tail or trimming than there are corrupt judges". I referred in an
earlier post to a "corrupt culture". Stuff like you describe should
get a person suspended from the AKC. Even one person flagrantly
breaking the rules without recourse is one too many. You also
state: "to make a list for all to see in my opinion is crazy".
You
said I should make a list. I did not say make a list. I said:
"clubs need to have a transparent process for selecting judges, chosen
by an informed membership. It is up to each individual club to meet
this minimum level of club responsibility. Reform of almost any
aspect of the dog showing sport starts there.
To the Showgsd List:
In making my observations I am not just criticizing from the
sidelines. James Barnhart, Hidden Forest GSD's. To see me and my GSD
check out GSD Review, Sept. 2008, page 76, Winners. Also page 60,
Futurity/Maturity.
Since I changed the subject line I have Randy's full post. It is in
response to earlier posts I have made:
> Yes Jim I'm sure all judges know this. But I can guarrentee you
> that all judges try to treat everyone with respect. Unfotunitly it
> dosn't work both ways. It takes allot to be a judge and blow off the
> little coments that are said about you just loud enough so you can
> here them. I have never in almost 30 years in the sport heard a
> judge do this to some one to try to make them feel stupid.
> You Said (The names of the vast majority of
> judges who have earned respect should be known by all.) Are you
> going to make a list so they can be known by all. Heck no one can
> even agree on an illistrated standard let alone a list of what
> judges are honest or not. Every judge has earned my respect just by
> becoming a judge. Sure there are some judges that I wouldn't enter
> under. If you feel that there is a dishonest judge than just don't
> enter under them it's that easy. But to make a list for all to see
> in my opinion is crazy. I can guarrentee you that all judges try to
> treat everyone with respect.We can only judge what we have on the
> day and how it shows. We all wish we could make everyone happy but
> we can't. Sorry
>
> Randy Hamm
> President GSDCO
> One of the homes of
> 7 time BIS winner
> CH VONHAMM BEDKAR LEATHER AND LACE (STEVIE)
> And BISS winner
> CH VONHAMM BEDKAR SHE'S ALL MINE (MINE)
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