As far as encouraging new people, I have signed up 4 this year and through the back door received the question "Why is Mary getting all these new members?" Yet at our recent show, the new members were actively participating, picking up and delivering judges, helping with the rings, hospitality, etc. I think the idea of some non-regular classes for our ************************************************** You just gave a very good example as to one of the reason we are not getting new people. The Old guard in clubs is afraid if new people come in they may take their power away. They don't want to lose control. I say move forward and let some new blood in with new ideas. <G> Lee Brown ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================