Thanks to everyone who responded regarding the progesterone levels. It was most helpful. I spoke to my vet again. I always understood that 5 was significant to tell us ovulation BUT.. then it's all timing irregardless of progesterone.. Dr. Kruger mentioned he'd bred a bitch at levels of 40 and got puppies.. so there you are.. Thanks again. Brenda Banister _www.midnightsunshepherds.com_ (http://www.midnightsunshepherds.com) In a chilly Anchorage, Alaska ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================