Are you serious? You can't be serious? Replying to a "newbie" and telling her she can unsubscribe herself from the list and then saying you are tired of hearing newbies say they are disgusted is not the way to get your point across to a new person and could absolutely be offensive to them.  I can't say this enough. We want new people! We love new people!  The future of our breed counts on attracting and KEEPING new people. We should all embrace them, educate them (nicely) and most of all ENCOURAGE THEM!  Jeff Pyle -----Original Message----- From: Iza Kabuska <izakabuska@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: caggra@xxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 5:20 pm Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Prayers needed for Paul Root Being treated like what ??? What are you talking about ? Are you saying I said something offensive ?  Iza Kabuska http://www.karizmashepherds.com ----- Original Message ----- From: caggra@xxxxxxx To: izakabuska@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; foxhavengs@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Prayers needed for Paul Root Personally I am tired of seeing newbies treated like that Iza. Most dog people and listers ARE a great bunch of people, but we are all very opinionated, most even aggressive in personality. Not necessarily a bad thing, especially in competition. However, if we all have a right to our opinions then so do newbies. I would think we would be most intelligent to be as nice to all new people as we can. They are where are entries & support will be coming from.  Jeff Pyle -----Original Message----- From: Iza Kabuska To: foxhavengs@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:47 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Prayers needed for Paul Root I know you have a delete button, and you can always "unsubscribe" yourself rom the list - Personally, I am tired of "newbies" saying how disgusted hey are about the list, show people, etc. I think we are all a great bunch f people - Iza Kabuska ttp://www.karizmashepherds.com ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Denise Fox" <foxhavengs@xxxxxxx> o: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:39 AM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Prayers needed for Paul Root I open this e-mail with the subject line Prayers needed for Paul Root and anther subject can't have it both ways. Wow this is how the list prays for one of there own on the list. In a earlier e-mail Bill asked the list not to post anything regarding what happen for respect for the Root family. This is how we show respect! As a newbie I am completely disgusted with the list and how everyone is behaving. Denise Fox Why are you all of a sudden feigning concern after you've been slamming him against the wall all day, Kathy? Do you think Lissa was lying? I've never know the VA to have the latest technology-so the person you spoke with may bewrong, and sometimes they will not tell you for privacy reasons. Regardless of how you or I or anyone feels about Paul's actions, he is VERY ill, and may be dying. Please show some respect for him and for Jenn. JMHO, Cyndy Wow that is a shame...we just tried to call the VA hospital to send a card heis according to the VA neither in Mather VA nor Martinez VA hospitals...hashe been transferred or released? 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