Barb, My experience with dog breeders indicates there is no way to control ones breeding program...No one would welcome the answere that may be out ther, than myself. I just can not see the amount of cooperation from the breeders to even make a dent in the problem(S) I guess I am just too realistic about my fellow breeders.I pray thru youir efforts and the few who are coopertion we wil;l stop this. My Corgi, "Sammy Sosa" just borke the all time speciality winning record..We are HAPPY!!!!! Your friend thru thik and thin....Chuck ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================