[ SHOWGSD-L ] PAWS INFO: Comments from Holt and AKC

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  • Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:29:25 EST

From  Charlotte McGowan
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:55  PM
Subject: Re: PAWS update. Notes from Jim Holt's talk in NH last   night

Feel free to cross post.

This is a really interesting  message as I was in NH  last night (Feb.9) 
where 
Mr. Holt spoke at the  invitation of the Merrimack  Valley Kennel Club. Mr. 
Holt stated that  he had spoken with Sen. Santorum's aide  yesterday morning 
and 
that a  revised draft would be out in a day or two and then  he backed up 
later  
in the evening and said 7-10 days. That does not  compute with this  release 
dated the previous day.   He did not mention   that  there had been a 
briefing 
of sponsors or that it had been given  to  USDA to review. We did ask if USDA 
had been consulted for their  viewpoint and he  skirted around the question 
and 
never gave a direct  answer. We also asked him if  home based breeders who 
might 
be  regulated would   also  be subject to the Freedom of Information  Act 
through AKC (which  would  make  their names and  addresses available to 
HSUS, PETA, 
DDAL etc.)   He ducked that  question a couple of times. Then he stated  that 
AKC breeders who are  inspected by AKC would be exempted altogether and so  
not subject to  PAWS. Then when asked the question of whether current USDA  
inspected  breeders who breed AKC dogs would also be exempted he said no (?)  
So you  
get a lot of stories, we certainly did last night, and no clear  picture  of 
any "unintended consequences." He did say DDAL was opposed  to AKC  being 
exempted and he said they were also opposed to this  bill.     When asked if 
he 
thought they would sue he  said they may well do that. He was  also asked if 
AKC's 
performance  standards on their inspections will have to be  adjusted to be 
USDA  
engineering standards (crate size etc.) and he said that is  a risk in  all 
of 
this. USDA would have to write regulations for this and there   is the risk 
that any approved 3rd party inspector is going to have to be  using  whatever 
standards USDA comes up with and we don't know what  they may be. Then  he 
went on 
to say he thought USDA would like to move  away from   engineering standrads 
to  performance  standards.  He also  made a big point of saying he did not 
work  
for AKC but that he was a paid  lobbyist working for a lobbying firm.  He 
also 
numerous times stated that this  bill was authored by Sens.  Santorum and 
Durbin. He used Sen. Durbin's name quite  a lot of times  which is also 
interesting. I guess it is because Sen. Santorum is  in a  tight race and 
might not even 
be in the Senate next term. He wanted   to  make clear to us that  even 
without 
Santorum this would  be  pushed on. He said he thought it had a good chance 
of 
passing this  term by being  attached to another piece of legislation and if 
it 
went  to the next term and  Sen. Santorum was gone, Sen. Durbin would push 
it.  
Someone in the audience  brought up that Santorum had taken HSUS money.  Mr. 
Holt told us Sen. Santorum's  last Aide, a Miss Hershey, an ardent  animal 
rights campaigner,  was  referred to as the 3rd Senator  from Pennsylvannia 
during 
the time of the  PPA. 
Mr. Holt also went over various  historical points including that AKC  
used to be the name in town for Purebred  dogs and now it is just one  of 23 
regsitries and that AKC doesn't  attract  the same kind of  respect it did in 
the 
past.
He said  not  for profit rescues and shelters would be exempt if they 
didn't  import more than  25 dogs meaning if they brought in more than 25 
they  
would be dealers..  Then I also asked about shelters and rescues and  
mentioned 
that the  Save-A-Sato group admitted to 8,000 stray and feral  street dogs 
being shipping  to Massachusetts shelters  and then he  went back and said 
not for 
profit  groups would all be exempt including  operations like Save-A-Sato. So 
it is not  clear what the  shelter-rescue situation is going to be or if 
purebred rescues  will be  exempt if they place more than 25. Oh, and he did 
say that 
PAWS would   not effect Mr. Hunte or his operation. 
On the timeline of  PAWS, I  pointedly asked about that and he said the 
numbers 25/6 were  not added  until last April just before the bill was 
announced. Prior  to that it was just  the business of pet store source 
records and   
enforcement  provisions.   He called the HSUS and DDAL  "strange bedfellows." 
Isn't  that funny when they have  been so  busy  making nice with   AKC.
And I will  add here that HSUS,  dear friend that  Wayne Pacelle is, has 
sent  out alerts on the Vermont  Cropping bill. They also showed bloody ear  
cropping films to legislators. The  HSUS lobbyist in Vermont was asked  by 
someone 
if the cropping bill would include  tail docking and she was  quoted as 
saying 
that will come  later. 
Charlotte

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convey if properly administered, but in the  light of the wrongs it would do 
and 
the harm it would cause if improperly  administered." Lyndon Johnson, 36th 
President of the  U.S.
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