Just to remind members that the outdoor National at Tempe was one of the most expensive Nationals we have ever put on. We had it there ,honoring Bob Hamilton,former President,who had died. His idea had been to use the baseball field ,as it was ,and use the regular bleachers that were permanent. Well,when we went out there,we found no one would be able to see good--too far away,and we couldn't use the baseball diamond ,because running around it you would be changing from grass to dirt and back to grass and back to dirt ---up and down. We decided it was too dangerous ,so took the show out to the outfield,and had those special bleachers built from scratch--very expensive. EVERYTHING---- every table for the vendors,who were up in the bleachers,every table for us workers. ( I was Membership and packets) Red book table, etc,and every single chair that went up on the bleachers or anywhere on the grounds had to be rented for the entire time. Betty Hamilton worked her butt off on that National Because the law required it,we had to also hire Security Guards for the whole time. We had to rent tents to cover the judges,and handlers grooming,as well as the workers We had to pay the food vendors up in the bleacher for extra time. Baseball games don't last all day,like a dog show,so they had to come early and stay until our day ended , Bob's idea had been to have an outdoor show,and since he had been Park's & Recreation Director of Tempe,we were able to pay a reasonable fee,for renting the field,to fulfill his dream.It was a huge success,but it cost us a fortune. Everyone had a lovely time in the sunshine. All the handlers wore black arm bands to honor the death of LaMar. That was the year we had our first "Sieger Show" The WDA put it on about !/4 mile from us,and their Judge sat at the head table,with our judges for dinner Sat,and also gave a short speech. The Board felt you could not expect members to bring chairs on the planes to have a seat at their National. So this idea of an outdoor show being like a regional Specialty,and bring your own chair is ridiculous. We went back to an indoor National again after that. Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================