been there and went thru a similar situation with 2 bitches....i was butted in the rib cage and knocked in a big mud puddle and while we tried to separate them, my husband got bit when after they broke their grip, they got back together once again....unfortunately while i was screaming at them wearing my new suede suit(birthday present), i couldnt hold my urine any longer....after we finally got them apart and got out of my clothes, we both sat down and had a stiff drink(and i dont drink)....there is nothing worse than having a dog fight between two bitches....with them, it is a fight to the death as far as they are concerned...these 2 bitches always played together but when one bitch had a litter 8 weeks prior and evidently other female was jealous and they hated each other from then on...what is amazing is the smaller bitch only wieghed 60 pounds and the larger bitch weighed over 100 pounds and the smaller one would not give up and was prepared to die if need be.... Natalie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================