I kinda had this a few years ago. I lost 4 girls to the same thing. = Never could revive them, they where born pink and everything. The one girl I = got her heart beating strong, but she never took more than one breath. You = could see her little heart beating in her chest, her color was good, as long = as I was breathing for her... but she wouldn't breath. Others would take a = breath or two then nothing, then another did what you explain as well and lived = a few days with my assistance, but would spit mom out and just didn't = thrive. Personally I always wondered if it was Mycoplasma. She had a high = reading and was treated with Baytril. Everyone said that would cure it , but I = often wonder. If you read about mycoplasma , It talks about this. Hope your little one pulls through....... :0) Linda DeLarso Narvon, Pa. Jolin Shepherds -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tlsgsd@xxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:53 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Opinions please Okay everyone, I have a question for you all.? First let me preface this with an explanation.? I had to have a c-section on my CH bitch this past weekend, one day prior to her actual due date.? This was a litter that I = was very excited about and looking forward to tremendously.? Everything = seemed to be going well, except that it seemed to take an extra long time to = get the puppies revived and alert.? Anyway, we lost two puppies before we = left the vet's office, because we couldn't get them revived.? After bringing = them home, mom of course was too dopey to want to take care of the pups so we = did the hot water bottle and the periodic feedings to try to keep them going = - none of them really were showing any desire to nurse, spitting the = nipples out, etc.? Long story short, we have lost all but one little girl, and = mom is just starting to be herself. I have a theory as to what I think was = the cause, but I would like some other opinions, if anyone has one. Thanks! Terri =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the = original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of = any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND = of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.=20 ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN = ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS = EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL = BE PROSECUTED.=20 For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1396 - Release Date: = 4/24/2008 6:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1396 - Release Date: = 4/24/2008 6:32 PM =20 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================