Mike, I see your point.. but do you think we can have it both ways...and then where does one draw the line? Friends bragging for friends not on the list, groomers bragging about having groomed the winner's dog at the local all breed show? we could easily go from 100 posts a day to 1000 so that everyone could see their name pop up on the list.. There really are plenty of lists that support the camaraderie we feel for each other, to post pictures and be just plain silly.. I believe this list has always been about the "business" of showing American style of dogs and I don't think it should be diluted away from that.(we do enough of that often enough, and get drawn back - remember Africam???) Regardless of how we look at it, brags ARE promotion of a dog, breeder, handler - they are a form of advertising (and that is not a bad thing either!) but with as many members as there are on this list, a line has to be drawn somewhere.. As usual, this is simply my own opinion.. whatever that is worth.. <g> Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds NEW LITTER DUE JUNE 29/07!!! http://www.shadowacre.com/litters.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: M Cheeks To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:02 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: One weekend, two new champions! While I can appreciate the List Rules on who can post brags, it is an interesting twist that only breeders & owners can post but not handlers. So many handlers now breed or co-own the dogs they exhibit, that this rule becomes a distinct disadvantage to one, such as George, who tends not to breed or put his name on his client's dogs. It's a shame that he will now be penalized for not having a "conflict of interest" as a handler. JMHO BTW, I don't have a vested interest in whether or not George can post, I just like to see fairness all around. Personally, I don't care for the redundancy of brags on the same dog, one from each breeder, one from each owner and one from the handler followed by posted congrats from each person who likes the dog. Mike TRAFALGAR German Shepherds TRAFALGARgsds@xxxxxxxxx 610-827-1833 **************** ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/852 - Release Date: 6/17/2007 8:23 AM ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================