In a message dated 3/11/2005 4:25:29 PM Central Standard Time, Tigra12@xxxxxxx writes: > > So is spitting the food out of your mouth a bad thing so the dog watches you > > more consistently? And are pinch collars wrong? Because I do both. I > honestly can't tell if this is satire, or what... I was making comment on how things have changed from 25 yrs. ago when we started in obedience. No spitting food is fine if thats your thing...Pinch collar if used correctly is a good tool...but I've seen it used incorrectly too many times at training. Each dog is an individual what works for one does not work for the other. The point i was trying to make was champions can do obedience ITS just not a priority with most comformation people. If we didnt want a AOE on Crissy would I be doing obedience with her...probably not. But I'm sure the heck enjoying it. Patty ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================