What difference does it make? A cryptorchid could be Grand Victor. He could have been neutered, shown in Veteran's, won the class and then gone on to win Best of Breed or Best of Opposite Sex at the National. As long as he isn't red, white, or blue......except for Lang Skarda's CH. Grey Boy, of course. Paula, 316 days and counting Home of BIS, BISS, Multi-Group Winning, AKC JAM/AOE, Intern'l & Am CH, Silver Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid),.1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 GSD in California, Lifetime #1 GSD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH Stats), 2011 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show Invitee. 2010-2011-Lifetime AKC Eukanuba invitee. ---------- Original Message ---------- Subject: Re: Obedience Victor Question From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:00:56 -0500 (EST) BUT, if he was neutered because he was a monorchid (DQ), who checks on that? Had a monorchid NOT been neutered, he would not be eligible for the award. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: Stormy Hope <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx> To: barbara17236 <barbara17236@xxxxxxx> Cc: Showgsd-l <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 9:19 pm Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Obedience Victor Question Hey, even I know the answer to that one!!! They can be neutered and therwise be to the standard. Stormy n Nov 28, 2011, at 6:10 PM, barbara17236@xxxxxxx wrote: > Can the Obedience Victor be a neutered male or do they need to be intact? Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================