Yes. No white GSD is eligible for OV. I had specifically asked that question to GSDCA. Any OV must have a placement ribbon from AKC conformation or have passed an AKC judge inspection and be deemed to not have any Disqualifying faults.... The explanation I received was that all the OV dogs/bitches (con/obed/herd/agility) should be the cream of the crop for breed and have no disqualifying faults. But, a white GSD can still earn a PAM which would be cool to see! Regards, Sara Minsk Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Doc Zoe <wynsum@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On 28 Nov 2011, at 23:39, DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx wrote: > > My understanding is, the dog must have a Ribbon from the confirmation ring > in order to be the Victor? > > <REPLY> > No, a conformation judge checks the dog at the National > > You used to have to get a ribbon but that changed years ago > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and > its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed > in any post. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org > SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================