Ahh Evan, I never said ALL judges are political, but you are saying NONE of them are. I have NO problem losing, just ask anyone, I'm a great loser! I do have a problem for anyone to lose to politics, however. There are dogs that I'm not even connected with lose due to politics and that frustrates me just as much as if I were the owner. A good dog should win, but they don't always and not because a better dog won. Everyone out there-send Evan an e'mail if you've either lost to or seen someone else lose because of politics. Better get a glass of wine and settle in for the night Evan! Edie Hallmark German Shepherds 'The Best of Both Worlds' Top American And German Lines www.gsdhallmark.homestead.com/index.html<http://www.gsdhallmark.homesteadcom/index.html> ----- Original Message ----- From: ELG440@xxxxxxx<mailto:ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:03 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] No place for politics in government In a message dated 12/29/04 3:05:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, GSDHALLMARK@xxxxxxx<mailto:GSDHALLMARK@xxxxxxx> writes: f you were to take a poll of the listers, you'd be overwhelmed with the number of folks who have seen politics in the specialty ring. Way too many people use politics for an excuse for not winning. I know Tedi and I couldn't care less who is handling. I know Twyla would never put up a handler. I know so many judges who would never do that, and yet I hear how they went with this or that person. I suspect there are even some who think I put up a handler and not a dog. I know better, and that is why I think politics do not play a part in most Specialty shows. I have heard it said many times why a dog won, but seldom because it was the best one there, IN THAT JUDGE'S OPINION ON THAT DAY. I feel so much better to say you lost to politics than to acknowledge you lost to a better dog. If you want to test this, just start naming judges, and start with Evan, Tedi, Twyla, Paul, Rita, Randy, Fran, Jack, or Dave, and then tell me who they put up other than the dogs? Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/<http://www.asgardgsd.com/>) http://www.asgardgsd.com/<http://www.asgardgsd.com/> Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:admin@xxxxxxxxxxx>. VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org<http://www.showgsd.org/> ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================