[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: NY changes lemon law from 14 days to 6 months....

  • From: Jen Proud <proudk9@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "TISHW@xxxxxxx" <TISHW@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:26:30 -0500

These people in our legislation need to get some education about reputable 
breeders!
To say the law is aimed at puppy-mills and not reputable breeders who sell to 
pet stores is the most ignorant statement I have read or heard all week!  (If 
it weren't for the idiot I met last week, I'd say my entire month!!!) Really 
now, what reputable breeder (of ANY breed) would sell their pups to a pet shop?
What is the limitation of damages? The maximum small claims court allows?  The 
purchase price of the dog?   None?
I wonder what effect a law like this would have on the responsible breeder's 
contract?  Which supersedes the other? The lemon law or a contract between 
buyer & breeder (when health guarantees are spelled out)?  Does the breeder get 
any option/right to have a pup examined by an independent veterinarian?
I am frightened about the last point- as mentioned in a previous post a vet 
says "don't get a Dane"...  Bet y'all a dollar the next Dane pup she sees she 
will have a biased view/opinion on what quality that pup is, thinking they're 
all bad genetically and can't help themselves... They're all a mess... Etc.
I took one of my boys (at 31 months) in for his  PennHIP.  Apparently, that 
veterinarian didn't like GSDs, as during the consult, he tried to tell me my 
cardiac certified boy had a grade 3 heart murmur (and like that wouldn't have 
been noticed before 31 months old) so why should I waste my money on having his 
orthopaedic testing?!?  He was dead serious when he said it to me too.(!!!)  He 
went ahead and did the tests when I persisted- this boy is my SD- and only that 
seemed a valid reason for him to do the tests... That I wanted to know if he 
had healthy joints so he could work his job.  When I came in to pick him 
up/view x-rays, the vets tune changed; he couldn't believe my dog had such good 
hips and still be a GSD.   (But he at a .26/.29 90%ile was a fairly normal 
score to me, with my own dogs' having DIs from as low as .19 on up to .33 for 
the single worst hip of the lot. That .33 is still better than 80% of the GSDs 
evaluated by the PennHIP method.)
So- what if this guy were your puppy's regular vet- he outright lied to me 
about my adult dog- and next time we went to a vet (I used this guy once, and 
only once b/c he was the only one in my area who did PennHIP exams where i 
lived at the time... I found another clinic for my next dog!!!) I had him 
thoroughly cardiac checked while I relayed my story. He was clear a second time 
too...  (Considering the head of the AR state board did his cardiac the first 
time I was confident he was indeed fine... But that mean vet had me freaked out)
Imagine that happens to the average pet buyer, not a super-savvy vet tech and 
breeder/exhibitor!!!!  The unscrupulous veterinarian sure could be padding 
their pockets soon in New York if the law doesn't provide for an opinion from a 
vet of the breeder's choice...
Go after the Hunte corporation if governments/people wanted to close down the 
puppy mills. That's where the large number of pet store dogs come from.... Not 
small-breeder operations. 

Gotta Love the American way:  make more ambiguous laws when we're not enforcing 
the ones in place that do the same or better as the new...

Off my tangent & falling off my soapbox-

Jen P & the Pack

JayDee's Proud-Haus Shepherds/ ProudK911
www.jaydeesphs.com 
AKC Breeder of Merit


On 28 Jun 2013, at 18:35, TISHW@xxxxxxx wrote:

> The article implies it is directed at puppy mills.  I'm with you tho -  
> tough on reliable breeders.
> 
> Tish
> 
> 
> In a message dated 6/28/2013 6:09:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes:
> http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=488919
> 
> Wow, can see  this now, puppy has some rear, a little sloppy going away, 
> vet 
> says it's a  "defect"....
> 
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating  generations  of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit  http://www.pinehillgsds.com/  
> 
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