>OF COURSE you have the pups examined; it protects you as well as the new >owner, but how on earth can someone "miss" missing testicles and a hernia? >What >about things they can't see/hear/feel? Let's see...a heart murmur, mega.... >Now, to operate on the youngster now or wait...who knows? All I know is >that these new puppy owners have a mess on their hands. It's one thing to >have >a situation you disclose, write in your contract/guarantee/warranty, but to >not know and sell the puppy and have to learn from THEIR VET....sad....and >inexcusable really. I always get my puppies examined by my vet before they go to new homes; however, that has not protected me from incompetent, possibly dishonest vets over the years. I always disclose, in writing, an umbilical hernia or undescended testicles. Neither of those conditions renders a puppy unfit for sale. I've never had a puppy whose hernia had to be repaired. Inevitably, they close on their own without a problem. A hernia would have to be pretty darn big to warrant surgery at 8 weeks of old to close. I always tell folks that it can be closed when they are spayed or neutered if it is still an issue (and it never has been). Neutering a male with undescended testicles is more of an issue than neutering one whose testicles are down, but no more of an issue than spaying a bitch puppy, in my opinion. I do let people know that. At 8 weeks, though, I never give up on testicles. They can descend later, and have, in my experience. And, they may actually be descended but the puppy pulls them up and down at will. I've had that happen on several occassions Laurie Pruett ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================