On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:33:54 -0400 (EDT), barbara17236@xxxxxxx wrote: >There are some breeds that do carry white patterns. The 'S' gene series is made up of the 'spotting' genes. Most GSDs are SS. This is the normal gene for breeds that aren't supposed to have any white markings on them. 'SS' dogs can either completely lack white, or they can express very minor amounts of white, generally on the toes, face (stars or snips), tail tips or spots or even splotches on chests. Some 'S' breeds fault these markings; others -- like Irish setters -- are commonly seen with small bits of white on them (particularly on the chest) to no consequence. >I have a friend who has Boston Terriers and she speaks of white >patterns. They have a problem with white ears causing hearing loss, The most extreme form of white spotting is the 'sw' (extreme white piebald) which is responsible for placing a white ground color over the entire body of the dog. The 'sw' gene is associated with deafness, unfortunately. However, with it, we would not have Dalmatians and English setters, just to name two breeds. I don't know exactly what the genetics of the Boston terrier breed is, but I'm guessing either the 'sp' (piebald) or 'sw' is involved. 'Piebald' is the milder form of 'sw', where the dog is roughly 50% white. This form of the gene may also be associated with deafness, but I'm not checked out on that, so YMMV. ;) >but as I understand it, this does not occur in the GSD? Probably correct, as "white" in GSDs is caused by the 'C' (Color) gene series. In GSDs, white is not so much a color, but the apparent absence of color since the gene masks coat color that would otherwise be present. Hope this is helpful (and not too terribly cornfusing)!! -- Karen C. Email: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================