I think it would be a great idea to add these rules to the contract - and a seminar at the national (I know the AKC gives them) for people putting on shows is also a great idea - discussing it here on the list is also good - to clarify procedure and what complaints are handled at a show and what are not . . Barb -----Original Message----- From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:02 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Like the kids GOSSIP game - some real facts In a message dated 6/22/2007 10:59:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, t.m.obrien@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Good points!. So what is the solution? Maybe one is to have the BOD and Judges (maybe handlers also) attend Ethics training. Maybe the Board could combine this with their "anti-trust" training. Ethics training is standard operating requirement for many organizations, why not GSDC/AKC. BTW, I wonder how many members leave the club over such "ethical lapses?" Tom It is worrisome, and if the decline of entries is any indication, a lot of people are leaving, new and old alike. And we wonder why? I agree with your training idea. There may be times when some are at fault by true lack of knowledge. This "training" will go a long way. Personally, I would endorse this. There is room for everyone to learn something and would be a HUGE step in the right direction to avoid this "issues" in the future. It was suggested they add this rules to the contract judges sign when elected to do the futurities and the national. With the right wording, there is no room for misunderstandings. Thanks. Ileana ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================