I believe in the philosophy of live and let live - let those who are interested in showing in conformation and breeding pursue their goals - let those interested in showing in performance activities pursue their goals - let those who want to compete in multiple venues pursue their goals. -- Gayle ************************************************************************************************************* As breeders, is anyone concerned about a split in type developing between the performance GSD and the conformation GSD? The GSD already has so many splits- All breed vs. specialty, the white GSD vs everybody else, American vs International. Working dogs need good conformation to stand up to the rigors of what they are asked to do. It is the same good conformation and soundness that is required of the show dog. It is heartbreaking to invest a lot of time energy and $ training a dog for performance to have it break down and need to be retired. I saw one of Susan Sullivan's dogs a couple of years ago, I think he was 10 or 11 years old then. The dog was still physically capable of working sheep and still possessed the desire and drive to do so. While my 7 year old dog was no longer physically able (bad elbows) to work stock and was retired. Susan's dog has excellent conformation and his bloodlines have longevity. I think conformation people and performance people need t o work together. There are several breeds where the working lines barely resemble the show lines and I would not want that to happen to the GSD. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================