I would like to remind everyone that those of us who yelled the loudest about this ordinance are excluded from the bad parts since we are breeders of purebred dogs and show them in either confirmation or obedience. We were fighting this thing because of the crazy rules. Spay and neuter at 4 months!!! That's a damn nasty thing to foist on folks. The theory is that it is healthier... nuts we all know what early spaying can do to a bitch's health and urinary tract. Neuter a male at 4 months and you have an obnoxious perpetual puppy. Never mind a GS just imagine an Irish wolfhound bouncing around your house as a perpetual puppy!!. I have nothing to lose but I do resent, like Laura and Stormy, being told what to do in my own home. As for Vets: Both of mine would just ignore those inqueries and no info would be provided and any staff member that made such a mistake would be gone in a second!!! Wake up folks...where were the local clubs in all this??? Marie K. Hicks Hightor German Shepherds Acton, CA www.geocities.com/hightorgsd ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================