Thanks for the update... It's been just a few years since I was a junior. :o) I agree that it would be pretty had to enforce but I disagree with the thought that it's just something a over obsessed parent could use against another kid to get them into trouble with the AKC. IF a Junior Handler had shown dogs before and has charges clients for showing their dogs in the past it would be really unfair to all the 'TRUE' Junior Handler who are competing and abiding by the rules. Thanks for all of the input from everyone! Rick (NOT an obsessed parent)Haase <g> ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°º¤ø A list member sent this to me... Here are the rules directly from the AKC site Section 2. Amateur Status. An individual listed as an agent is not eligible to compete in Juniors, nor any person who distributes rate cards or otherwise advertises themselves as handling dogs for pay in the show ring, or accepts payment for handling dogs. "Participation in Junior Showmanship is intended to encourage Juniors to learn how to care for and present different breeds. Part of the educational process could include apprenticeship or assisting professional handlers. Juniors may take their employers' dogs into the ring while still retaining amateur status." From: "Ariel cassista" <gsdlover420@xxxxxxx> Date: 2005/09/29 Thu PM 12:43:24 EDT To: ricknaudra@xxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Junior Show Questions Juniors is technically considered an "amateur" sport. Once you get paid your not considered an amateur anymore.......your considered a professional, so they say. To me being paid doesn't make you a professional, years of had work, dedication and everything that comes along with that makes you a prefessional. I'm not sure what the rule on reciveing gifts etc for handling, but a junior CAN be paid to assist a handler at shows for grooming, exing, cleaning etc. Pretty had to enforce if you ask me, just something a over obsessed parent could use against another kid to get them into trouble with the AKC. Ariel > > >From: <ricknaudra@xxxxxxx> > > >Reply-To: ricknaudra@xxxxxxx > > >To: <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Junior Show Questions > > >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:02:50 -0400 > > > > > >So let me get this right... Once a Junior has been paid for showing dogs > > >(he/she) can never be considered a Junior Handler again... right? > > > > > >What if they've been listed as an agent? > > > > > >-Rick Haase ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================