I know what Rita says is true for many All-Breed clubs. My KC isn't in a heavily populated area, so the popular judges all have to be flown in; and our small entry limits what we can spend and still break even. Our rule is a judge must do at least two groups. Provisional judges are sometimes hired for a single breed, but they are usually local judges trying to meet their required number of assignments. Janice Buchanan, UT In a message dated 12/20/2006 10:04:19 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, magic4sure@xxxxxxxxx writes: As most of you know I love judging but it is difficult for specialty judges to do all-breed shows unless they do other breeds. They will ask the specialty judges if you will judge for $3.50 a dog a no expenses. (Not sure if that is still the same as it may have gone up). Lets say that you have an entry of 50 which is big these days. you would receive $175.00. This does not begin to pay for your air fare and other expenses. As a judge you would not be able to do many of those are you would go broke. I do not judge to make money but it would sure add up if you did many of these shows. I do know we have quality specialty judges like Lee Brown and others who does other breeds and gets many assignments . At least we do have some quality specialty judges doing all-breeds. Rita Sandell Janice Buchanan Wasatch-Gold German Shepherds _http://wasatchgold.brinkster.net/_ (http://wasatchgold.brinkster.net/) "If our dogs were smarter, they could tell us what they were thinking. If we were smarter, they wouldn't need to." ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================