Hiya - I love a good posternum, but come from a breed that does not talk about it at all in their standard. Some years ago I showed a liver dog who had it and I had more people come up to him and look at it because they had never seen it on a dal.. Unfortunately, I am not sure how it fits for having reach in front as most of the breeds that came up in the original question (Dobes, Weims, etc) have tons (too much) and don't, at this moment have much reach.. Equation goes like this = if you have good shoulders, you TYPICALLY have posternum because the shoulders are in the right place (in addition to everything else), but posternum doesn't necessarily equal good shoulders. JMHO. Jess Mac Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com) & The Shepherd Girls ******************************> Denise Bostrom Denise Bostrom <denise@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: On my dogs I like to see a good prominent prosternum. My understanding is> it provides support for muscles necessary to have good front reach. (please> correct me if I am wrong here). _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================