I'm a member of the PC myself, but I will always disagree with the "If you truly are such and such you will join". Sounds like blackmail to me. That's just my take on it. Tons of people are dedicated to the breed without holding a card. Don't get me wrong, I'd love more people to join, but insinuating that they really don't care enough about the breed because they won't join the club...well, it's a good way to push more people away than bring them in. And if they do join, it's more likely to be out of spite and anger than anything else. In a message dated 9/9/2006 9:22:57 PM Central Standard Time, cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: If you truly were an advocate of the breed joining the club would be a given. - Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where it's about function, not flash ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================