[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ILLUSIONS v. REALITY
- From: sheila lieberman <dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: the list <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:33:56 -0800 (PST)
There are places for political discussion on the internet. This is not the
place.
She has right wing views, which, while I do not agree with, are the views of
many.
Our job is to keep politics of the nation off the list except for defending our
rights to own and breed and show our dogs. She also has no patience for the
new administration, but that also does not belong here.
I have asked her to both leave it off the list and to have some patience with
Obama, and to read some history, especially about Hoover and FDR. And what FDR
was faced with and how he tried to deal with it, and how he was swayed by the
far right to give up his spending plan, even though it had started to show
results.
The spending into deficit brought on by WWII is what ended the Depression. And
the interstate highway system is what ended the recession post war.
We need to do what is being done. And we need to keep it off this list.
We can go to cnn, Huffington Post, and many other places to express our views
of the world. Here we talk about saving our right to own, breed and show our
dogs.
sheila
--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Amy Greenhut <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Amy Greenhut <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ILLUSIONS v. REALITY
To: Elsyd1@xxxxxxx
Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 6:45 AM
I totally agree. That has NO place on this list. What is wrong with her. You
should not go anywhere Syd. The people who send this awful stuff need to be
banned or moderated before they can post.
Amy Greenhut
Justrock German Shepherds
Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises & Tortoise Rescue
Behold The Turtle, He Makes Progress Only When He Sticks His Neck Out
A Quote By James B. Conant
----- Original Message -----
From: Elsyd1@xxxxxxx
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:54:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ILLUSIONS v. REALITY
Not only is it not worthwhile, it is vile, inflammatory, defamatory, and
clearly shows the writer's infatuation with hatred. Ginger, you
disappoint me.
Throw me off, Admin, I am not sitting still for this. Syd
In a message dated 2/2/2009 6:09:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
-----Original Message-----
ILLUSIONS v. REALITY
Thirteen years ago today (2 February 1996), the coldest temperature ever
recorded in the State of Minnesota - 60 degrees below zero - was recorded in
Tower, Minnesota. "Musta been" before "carbon
footprints" and while ex-
Vice President Gore and his allies were busy with other things
"environmental".
This morning's news on the TV featured a Doctor from a clinic in Georgia,
billed as an expert on "in vitro fertilization", explaining the
ethics and
policies that govern episodes like the recent singular birth of eight
artificially implanted embryos. The "Georgia" Doctor sported a
very
noticeable British accent. Why is a Doctor from Britain practicing medicine
in the US? Could it be because he makes and keeps more money here and
therefore leads a freer life? I wonder if there are any or many Doctors in
Britain that sport a USA accent? Could it be because only
"missionary"
doctors and nurses from the US choose to practice in poor countries in
Africa or Asia or South America and only a miniscule number, if any, choose
to practice where medicine is "nationalized"? Why is that? If
the
"socialized medicine" of Europe and Canada and Australia is so
desirable
that it is a campaign promise of the current President, why don't
American
doctors go there? Since they do not go there, could it be that this
"universal" (AKA "socialized") medicine neither produces
nor maintains the
high quality Doctors Americans enjoy today? If we "socialize"
medicine like
Britain and the rest of Europe and Canada and as our new President promises,
will we have their long "waiting lists"; will we have their
bureaucratic
decisions about "you're too old for care" or "that child
is imperfect and
therefore should be aborted (AKA "killed") or "the ONLY
specialist left
(since 'specialties' no longer pay enough to justify all the
additional
study, time, and debt) that can treat XXXX is across the country and is not
available for 3 years; and will all of our Doctors eventually be 3rd world
natives and 3rd world medical school graduates like the two British Health
care Doctors of (Pakistani?) descent that recently tried to blow up or burn
down that airport in Scotland?
I am repeatedly reminded that there is a "national economic
crisis". If
that is so, why are the President and Congress obsessed with spending
Billions on birth control, gun control, more Wilderness (both from a non-use
and management aspect as well as the catastrophic fire aspect), and giving
Billions to law-breaking and socialist-oriented urban groups like ACORN?
Why are they considering the unbelievable long-range expenses of
"national"
health care when Social Security is going broke and the national deficit
mortgages our future and risks national "foreclosure"?
While the central government spends money like drunken sailors, the
heretofore hidden and growing subservience of State governments to an
increasingly all-powerful central government can no longer be denied. For
instance, here in Minnesota a popularly described "fiscally
conservative"
Governor is attacked for the slightest attempt to bring state spending in
line with state revenues. The teachers and parents moan that he hates
children when he proposes school funding cuts. The urban Doctors and
Hospital staffs publicly proclaim that he hates the poor and the delivery of
medical services (presumably to everyone but himself) because he
"dares" to
propose cuts in medical subsidies and assistance. The "Conservation,
arts
advocates cry foul over proposed cuts" because the Governor proposes a
2.2
percent cut in such funding after our recent election where Minnesotans
voted to earmark increased sales taxes for such work (of course everyone
conveniently forgets that it was several weeks AFTER the vote for something
"we all loved" that the state announced the Billions of dollars of
deficits
forecast for the next few years). So our Governor is denounced as a bum for
attempting to "cut" spending and the President and Congress are
lauded for
increasing spending. Everyone is confidently "looking to
Washington" for
"help" that will keep things just as they were. What
"crisis", if all we
need are more federal largesse, power, and intervention to make everything
better?
So the Governors, including Governor Palin of Alaska, are supporting the
national "Bailout" or "Stimulus" proposals to sprinkle a
TRILLION or so of
our children's tax dollars across the "fruited plain". In
this they join
urban Democrat politicians in jockeying at the trough for the greatest share
possible of these "federal" dollars. Like 12 puppies going after
10 teats,
urban mayors and Governors of both parties vie for the promise of federal
funding. The fact is that all the large cities are constantly on the verge
of bankruptcy because of the promises made by their entrenched Democrat
"machines" for the votes to keep them in power. State governments
have
likewise spent and spent and spent as the "good times (i.e. 'tax
collections')
rolled". State bureaucrats will now be evaluated by their bosses and
receive bonuses based on "how much" and "how quickly"
they get "every dime
available from the federal piggy bank" just like state highway personnel
and
state fish and wildlife agency and state education bureaucrats have been for
some time. Forget about "strings": if Robert Reich and
Congressional
Committee Chairman Wrangel (another national urban politician tax evader)
get the legislation to say (as they have discussed in Congressional
testimony) "NO FUNDING FOR WHITE MALES OR SKILLED WORKERS" so be
it, the
Governors will just take the money and run.
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