I've been watching this subject about critiques now for the last few days. I'm glad we're talking about this because I've been meaning to bring this subject up myself for a long time and how it pertains to the critiques one can find on the GSDCA web site under the reviewed dogs. I understand what people will say about a judge and his interpertation of our standard when he evaluates a dog. HOWEVER, what I can not for the life of me understand is when I read a critique given on a dog by two or more judges and they are talking about physical structure. One judge will say for instance, "so & so" was a lovely animal but I would have liked to have seen a better length of upper arm. Then scroll down to the next judges critque on the very same dog and he says, "so & so" was a lovely animal with a beautiful length of upper arm!!!! Well what the heck happened? Did the dog all of a sudden grow his upper arm from the time judge #1 seen him until judge #2 judged him? Interpertation has nothing to do with structure. Either the dog has it, or he doesn't! Interpertation would have everything to do with how a judge views a particular dog's type and movement according to our standard, but absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the actual structure of the dog. That is not open to interpertation in my book. While we are hoping to educate the fancy and especially the new comer by offering valuable education through critiques, I say lets watch who is giving those critiques. Anyone can be a judge if he's bred the right amount of qualifers, judged the right amount of matches, and stewarded at the right amount of shows. Does this really qualify him/her to be a judge? Some judges critiques I read with respect and know what they're saying to be pretty much correct, while others I shake my head and ask WHY or HOW? So in my opinion critiques are fine if they are done by judges who know what the heck they're looking at, but it can often times be misleading to the novice when they view them and believe everything he reads because it must be so, because the judge said so. What really would be nice is if we could critique our judges to see who is making the grade and who isn't. I think it should be required that our judges be re-evaluated every so often to see how they are doing, but then again by who's interpertation????? Best wishes, Barbara -- Barbara J. Galasso CHIEFTAINS GERMAN SHEPHERDS Visit my website at http://chieftainsgermanshepherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================