[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Testing for DM

  • From: "Miss Hereford" <misshereford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:44:31 -0600

Thank you ladies for your replies.

Thanks Amy for the heads-up on these people - if they don't have time or
patience to train a puppy, then they don't have time for a dog, especially
one of my little monsters.

Thanks Kathy for the numbers and info from the website. I too looked at it
and the percentages are pretty low to be solid indicators. Perhaps when the
percentages are up I will add that testing to my criteria.

Daphne

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From: almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:23 AM
To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx; misshereford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
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Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Testing for DM

These people contacted me for a puppy, they want their puppy fully trained 
so they don't have to bother with housebreaking and training it. The wife is

apparently not on board with getting a puppy.
I decided they weren't the right home for my pups if they can't bother to 
take time with it And be tolerant of accidents on the floor, and bond with 
it through training and if both people in the family aren't totally 
committed to a puppy i felt it was just asking for trouble.
Just my opinion, Amy

Amy Safdir
Almanya Shepherds
www.almanyagsd.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: <misshereford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Testing for DM


>
>
> In a message dated 12/10/2006 7:06:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> misshereford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> I  received the following email and am curious as to whether the majority 
> of
> you are now adding this test to your screening process prior to  breeding?
>
>
> Here is the email I received - "I am in the process of  searching for the
> "perfect" German Shepherd for my family. My search has  brought me to your
> web site.
>
>
>
> A major concern for me and my  family is that any prospective puppy (and
> parents) have been Flash tested  negative for Degenerative  Myelopathy
> http://neuro.vetmed.ufl.edu/dm_flash_test_web/index.htm
>
>
>
> Are  your dogs tested for this condition? It is such a devastating 
> condition
> that I do not understand why more breeders are not addressing the  issue.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you test for DM. - signed Gil  Rosen"
>
>
>
> Mine are not.  I did my homework and went to the site and gave  this some
> very serious consideration when I first learned of the test.  (I  have two

> dogs
> in the 4th and 5th generation of a particular pedigree that  started to 
> loose
> their rear, one bitch at 13, one bitch at 15...now DM...other  issues...or

> just
> old age???  I have no idea....or do we just do a happy  dance and 
> celebrate
> that they were healthy and enjoyed a fantastic life to that  point???) 
> Anyway,
> I was interested and took a closer look.....
>
> I suggest everyone do the same:)
>
> When reading the description the test, based on the presence of an allele,
> you'll note the phrases "we suspect", "may predispose", "suggesting". 
> Reading
> further, some dogs who have the same/similar issues (Corgis and 
> Ridgebacks)
> don't even have this particular allele.
>
> What cinched my decision to wait for better testing is that if you keep
> reading ONLY 25% OF THE DOGS DIAGNOSED WITH DM HAVE THIS PARTICULAR 
> MARKER.  So,
> what good is the test, I wondered?  Put another way you  can look at dogs 
> who
> actually have DM and 75% will test negative????
>
> I think it's super that research is being done, but for me, we're way too
> early in the process with this particular test to attach any sort of 
> validity to
> the results.
>
> When puppy people ask about specific issues, it's usually because they've
> been down that particular road.  While I'm sensitive to what they've been
> through, all I can do is my best to avoid certain (known)issues within 
> pedigrees.
> These folks are concerned with DM, and that is their right, but
> unfortunately 100 other things can happen.  That doesn't mean I take a 
> "s**t happens"
> attitude, far from it!  I do all I can and pray hard  that any puppy that 
> leaves
> here dies peacefully in its sleep at 14. Right  now though, this 
> particular
> test for DM isn't there yet.
>
> BTW, I think it's a little over the top that these people wanted the 
> parents
> AND puppy tested.  How soon would you test the baby puppy that they  could
> take it home at 8 weeks and good Lord, what else do they want it tested 
> for <G>?
>
> Kathy
> member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> three  generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here!
>
> visit _Pine  Hill German Shepherd Dogs_
> (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/)
>
>
>
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