I agree I don't have good luck with ER vets, it seems I end up telling them what tests to run etc. Joyce Willis MyJoy German Shepherds Home of Sel Exc Ch. Aramist Enchanted of MyJoy In a message dated 6/30/2013 6:19:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, onaluzlead@xxxxxxx writes: P.s. my comment and thy know less than most of you ISNOT an insult...i meant as vets we should look to them for answers but in my past experiences I knew more about animal care then they did...at the Emergency Clinic that is... I just dont want any mis interpretation here!!! Thanks again... D Sent from Donna on her new iPhone On Jun 30, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Donna <onaluzlead@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Ok sorry have been down in the nursery and my signal today down there sucks...anyhow i think till tomorrow we are ok...i did panic this am after she came in from being outside to potty and we took her temp like always and she was a shocking 105.8. I have her sit for 10 mins thinking OMG cooling off ..maybe to hot in the side pen today??? It was down only to 105.1, at that point i put her in the tub, please note she walked down normal to the salon and we picked her up and put her in...she wasnt happy of course, she wanted her puppies...i ran water all over her, bathed her rear cause it still had been yucky since last weeks delivery...thats when i noticed the discharge...her newspapers have been clean...but not her pantaloons and tail...so we got that clean...dried her to get the heavy moisture out...thats when i saw an excess of the discharge fall out of her and on the grooming table. Of course i ran my finger through it and then smelled it... No odor but a thicker consistan cy > ...(washwd my hands) so then put her back with babies. Gave her 500 ml of Amoxi, 1/4cc of pit, Fortiflora, more greek Yogurt in her food her meat, some kibble and mixed. She ate it all...drank water normally, shes a bitch that stands in her water bucket even in the winter...and the rest of the day has been good and normal...so ??? > Needless to say thank you for everyones input and ideas...i am only waiting for tomorrow cause the repro guy will be in and will see us, if she didnt continue to act totally normal we would of gone to the ER of course. > My problem with ER vets is from past experiences, usually thy are clueless, know less than most of you and refer to "the book" for some answers. When all else fails they want to spay em. If her life depended on it of course I would do it...but i dont believe that is the case here... > Thanks again, > Donna > > Sent from Donna on her new iPhone > > > On Jun 30, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote: > >> Guys, guys, guys we don't know what the temp is. I e-mailed privately...anything under 103 for a lactating new mom, who most likely has a heat source in w/ her and the puppies, whose uterus is still slightly contracting is NORMAL. >> >> A red to pink-ish "tomato soup-y" (sorry to be graphic) is NORMAL at a week PROVIDED there is no odor, the bitch is eating/drinking normally, puppies are thriving etc. >> >> (I still have that w/ a bitch at 16 days now, NORMAL!) >> >> No matter what safe RX is administered, mom and week old babies will need probiotics (bene bac /forta flora). Anything you give mom will pass to the babies and the LAST thing you'd want w/ week old babies is loose stools/dehydration. >> >> Now...if mom isn't eating, isn't laying w/ her babies, drinking too much/ temp over 103, any breasts are firm/hot, puppies aren't thriving...you 'betcha, I am racing to the ER. >> >> >> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC >> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions >> visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ >> >> In a message dated 6/30/2013 3:15:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rockannand@xxxxxxx writes: >> If you begin administering antibiotics yourself, prior to your Vet visit, it might interfere with the tests your Vet will want to do. I wouldn't wait on getting her to the Vet, this is an emergency. >> >> Kate @ Rockannand >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donna" <onaluzlead@xxxxxxx> >> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Sunday, 30 June, 2013 9:24:50 AM >> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Help on antibiotic >> >> Can anyone tell me a safe drug to start a mother nursing week old puppies on. This am she had an elevated temp, her vag discharge was pink n creamy which i know is not good. I will take her to vet tomorrow but in the meantime i would like to be proactive... >> Thank you >> Donna >> >> Sent from Donna on her new iPhone >> >> ===========================================================================> POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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