There have always been big dogs and there have always been doggy bitches. They can be useful in breeding programs, and often they move exceptionally well, which is why their people keep them in the first place. Personally I find doggy bitches more objectionable than big dogs, but that's not important. I think there's a difference between dogs that are just big and dogs whose legs are too long...and that, FWIW, is the bigger problem that I see. JMO, but big and in proportion (so long as we're not talking giant-sized here) is not nearly so objectionable as a dog who appears to be all legs. There are also some dogs out there whose legs are too short, but they are very much in the minority compared to the giraffe style of dog that seems to be so popular now. Doggy bitches can be useful...they just aren't very pretty. Big bitches are not necessarily doggy...doggy bitches do not fit the standard, which requires that secondary sex characteristics be obvious, to wit: (from the Standard) > Secondary sex characteristics are strongly marked, and every animal > gives a definite impression of masculinity or femininity, according to > its sex. Peggy Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx wrote: > > >This is also becoming a problem with our German counterparts...in a BIG >way...emphasis on BIG as in, HUGE. So much so that the SV has come down with >a >rule, effective either this year or next , that a WICKET. will be used >on...now not sure which class, I believe the 18-24 month group.... >Kathy > >Finest in American Show & German Importing >WEBSITE UPDATED: JUNE 6, 2005 > > >_Victory German Shepherds_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/index.htm) > > > >============================================================================ >POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original >author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind >are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the >Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > >ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY >MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS >PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY >FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE >PROSECUTED. > >For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org >============================================================================ > > > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================