Touche' your point is well taken, but the difference is Bassett hounds and Poodles are NOT in our standard( at least for now they aren't) , and therefore can NOT enter our National.....hey I've been chasing the German Shepherd standard for a long time........believe me, I understand, and part of me agrees with the flip side of this argument.....but how can you have a dog beat out all the other dogs in obedience and then tell the owner....."Sorry, you're WHITE, or Sorry, you don't have enough testicles.......it just violates something in me!......Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 11:04:05 AM Subject: Re: HERO dogs! Hey Ed........  That's a GREAT ARGUMENT.   Let's say its a Bassett Hound or a Poodle.........possibly we could incorporate that into our Breed Standard too!! Lets face it.......our Standard is an elite description of what we consider to be an ideal representative of a particular Breed.   What we do with the "results".....( the dog itself ) as far as training or breeding or winning........is what WE DO!! We either think the Breed we've chosen is important enough to us to adhere to it.......or not. It's just so simple..........   Carolyn   marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com    From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:36 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership And that is a hero dog from the get go and should be rewarded as such. But totally different than the guardian clubs official awards.  Apples and oranges on this one Ed. You don't have to meet AKC standards to be a great dog, but the breed clubs charge of protecting the standard DOES come with criteria. Molly   edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Molly, lets say that same hanging ear, white GSD found a bomb on a 747 Airplane carrying 330 school children on an international field trip promoting world peace, or that same dog saved a platoon of marines during combat?.........we've big enough to understand that not all GSDs live up to the AKC conformation standard ....I would be proud to see your example ( and mine) on the cover of the Review...........there is one problem....I no longer get the Review......this is perhaps the best discussion we've had on this list in quite some time.....Ed Hill ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================