Sudden Cardiac Death. It has been found in German Shepherds and Boxers. Somwhat varying etimologies in the two, but similiar. It can Spontaneous in nature and not necessarily picked up on a routine exam (ie, just listening with a stethescope). There is a coloy of GSDs bred by Cornell with inherited ventricular arrhythmias that is being studied. You can read more of that colony here: http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/96/4/1337 Another link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui ds=8006271&dopt=Abstract Basically, it is an Arrhythmia, or abnormal rhythm. The median age of onset of this particular arrhythmia is 4.5 months. This is different from SAS, SubAortic Stenosis. SAS is another cardiac disease GSDs are subject to. It is genetic. USUALLY though SAS can be found by routine exam. It will present, through stethescope as a murmur. Obviously not all murmurs are SAS... but if a murmur is found, further testing is advised. Ginger Cleary - Rome, GA www.rihadin.com <http://www.rihadin.com> "Prohibition.. makes a crime out of things that are not crimes..A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." A. Lincoln (Dec. 1840) -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kris Kudel Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:53 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] HELP ME PLEASE!!!! Ok..... 7 month old female pup dies and this is all the info I have.............. "We may never know for sure, but it looks like probably something with her heart. This female just keeled over dead a few days ago. The owners did some research and apparently there's a genetically based thing in German shepherds that I'd never heard of, kind of a sudden death syndrome, that has something to do with heart arythmia's."............. Does anyone know of this, or have had it happen to one of theirs? Reply privately if you'd like. Kris Kudel Kamelot Shepherds UPDATED http://mysite.verizon.net/krisbob1/ GSDCA member ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================