This list is such a wealth of knowledge, thought I'd toss this one out there too... Does anyone have any suggestions for doing away with ground wasps and their nests? This one is right in the dog yard and is a pain in the you-know-what... As for floating ribs, thanks for all the info., it is appreciated and has been passed on. Jenn ~~ Ron Peet & Jenn Somogyi Foxhunter and Kiefernfels Kennels Ontario Canada http://www.foxfels.ca ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================