Boy Tom, when you start with the mediocre all breed dog and judge thing I have to grit my teeth and sit on my hands. But apparently my hands have escaped because I am typing this. If you think that all breed judges are inferior get involved with an all breed club and make friends with the people on the judges selection committee or, even better, become a member of the judges selection committee. If you think that all breed dogs are inferior to those shown at specialties bring you specialty dogs to the all breed shows and show the judges what a good GSD really is. Maybe if the judges start seeing really good representatives of the breed, they will stop putting up the mediocre ones. It is incumbent on all of us, as guardians of the breed, to educate judges because they can have an influence on the breed. It makes me sad that this is yet another schism in the breed. Specialty vs All Breed, German vs American, White v Normal colored, Working lines v Show lines. Are we headed down the same road that some of the sporting breed have gone, where the different groups don't even look like the same breed? Diane BISS Ch. Echo-Cham's River Phoenix OFA H&E AKA "River" Ch. Da-Jo's Crestview Ironman AKA "Tony" Candia's Hard Rock Candy v Tejas AKA "Rocky" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================