My Goldbecker and Hart is Copyrighted 1955 by The Practical Science Publishing Company of Orange, CT. It may be a first edition, though it doesn't say so. There is no mention of Jimmy Moses in it. Bet there aren't many GSD books that can make that claim!! It is nice that my first mentor, Grant Mann, IS in it!! Does anyone remember that from 1920 to 1925 the Grand Victor/Victrix titles weren't used? They were called Grand Champions!! I can't remember that far back. Paula, 300-some days and counting ----Original Message Follows---- Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:51:42 -0500 From: NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: it's a dog show - not a horse race.... I am delighted that you found it so rewarding. It was the first book I ever read on the Breed. I had the distinct honor of knowing both of them. Ernie Hart gave me my first best puppy win with the first puppy I showed from my first litter. The dog was six months old and I owner handled him to the breed at the GSDCof Long Island match over 150 entries. That was in June of 1966 and I still have the Rosettte. I met Bill a year later when he gave the same dog a major Reserve from the American Bred Class. Both of them were very helpful to me. Bill called me several times and I still have a letter he wrote to me asking about a puppy.I feel so fortunate to have had such wonderful guidance during my formative years in the Breed. It also turned me into a very outspoken writer. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================