no one said you were lying. i just do not know where you got that from....practical science is not the publisher but the section under which the book is filed and is on the spine of the book. and orange conn is only mentioned in the preface. The book and all rights is published by TFH publications which is owned by The Estate of Ernest Hart and always has been.It happens sometimes in publishng eg; Nine Stories by JD Salinger. The original Boston Edition is worth a small fortune but several of the stories were previously published in New Yorker Magazine. New Yorker is not the publisher of the book but is given credit in THE FIRST EDITION.Sometimes the author publishes the book first. I have two first editions of Catcher In The Rye and one of the FIRST ENGLISH EDITION of Winnie The Pooh. Identifying the actual publisher irs a fun game ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Cooke <psharp212@xxxxxxx> Date: Saturday, November 25, 2006 5:12 pm Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Go ldbecker and Hart, not Ginsburg, nor Godbecker To: NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Norma!! I am NOT lying!! I can photocopy the front pages and fax > them to > you if you like!! > > I don't remember where I got the book; it would have been in the > 60's or > 70's, > > Paula > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx > To: psharp212@xxxxxxx > CC: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Goldbecker and Hart, not Ginsburg, > nor > Godbecker > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:13:27 -0500 > > do not know where on earth you got that. ernie hart was a publisher > owned TFH publications which is located in new jersey. he owned the > copyright to the book and all the editions published. i have the 1960 > edition. 55 is the earliest copyright. ernie did the illustrations. he > was quite a good artist. TFH has published over 100 different dog > books.orange is in new jersey not conn. > > ----- Original Message ----- > F rom: Paula Cooke <psharp212@xxxxxxx> > Date: Friday, November 24, 2006 11:16 pm > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Goldbecker and Hart, not Ginsburg, nor > Godbecker > To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > My Goldbecker and Hart is Copyrighted 1955 by The Practical Science > > Publishing Company of Orange, CT. It may be a first edition, > > though it > > doesn't say so. > > > > There is no mention of Jimmy Moses in it. Bet there aren't many > > GSD books > > that can make that claim!! It is nice that my first mentor, Grant > > Mann, IS > > in it!! > > > > Does anyone remember that from 1920 to 1925 t > he Grand > > Victor/Victrix titles > > weren't used? They were called Grand Champions!! I can't remember > > that far > > back. > > > > Paula, 300-some days and counting > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:51:42 -0500 > > From: NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: it's a dog show - not a horse race.... > > > > I am delighted that you found it so rewarding. It was the first > > book I > > ever read on the Breed. I had the distinct honor of knowing both of > > them. Ernie Hart gave me my first best puppy win with the first > > puppy I > > showed from my first litter. The dog was six months old and I owner > > handled him to the breed at the GSDCof Long Island match over 150 > > entries. That was in June of 1966 and I still have the Rosettte. I > met > > Bill a year later when he gave the same dog a major Reserve from > the > American Bred Class. Both of them were very helpful to me. Bill > called > > me several times and I still have a letter he wrote to me asking > about > > a puppy. > I feel so fortunate to have had such wonderful guidance during > > my formative years in the Breed. It also turned me into a very > > outspoken writer. > > > > > > > ===================================================================== ======= > > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the > > original author a nd of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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