Hitler had a GSD bitch - which really put the kiss of death on the breed as far as the British were concerned. In France, they were (and are) usually called Berger Allemandes which translates to Shepherd of Germany. Having lived in that border area - Karlsruhe/Strasbourg - I do know that only British visitors called them Alsatians. Mary-Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: German Shepherd history? I've read that a number of times. I do suppose The Alsatian part is true. I traveled a bit BD (before dogs). I noticed when I traveled to Italy, France and Great Britain, they were called Alsatians. In Germany and Austria they called them GSDs. Not sure about the "wolf dog" part.... If you read Peter Mayles' books about Provence, he refers to them as greasy Alsations. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 9/15/2009 5:53:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, uwish@xxxxxxxxxx writes: Through the years, they have been used extensively as war and police dogs. After WWII, their popularity waned due to their association with Hitler and his reign of terror. It was during these post WWII years that the British changed the dog's name to Alsatian, and then later to Alsatian Wolf Dog, to remove the stigma of having the word German in their name. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================