I'm afraid your right Tish. I'm one of the "old timers" who started in Obedience and am proud of it. I always tried to put Obedience degrees on my champions. I plan on doing it with "Hunter" the dog I am currently campaigning. Years ago I belonged to a now gone GSDC of So. California. There was a group of us with some spectacular obedience trained dogs led by inimitable Fern Quirnbach who use to take us to Children's hospitals and retirement homes and put on shows. It has been a long time since I was so proud of our fabulous Shepherds. Finding champions today with obedience titles is a rarity. And to those who have obedience titles truly understand the greatness of the German Shepherd. I was one who disagreed when the parent club convinced AKC to move us to the Herding group from the working group. But again I have always been a voice in the wilderness. We need another Margaret Pooley as our mentor. Tony Amoroso ----- Original Message ----- From: TISHW@xxxxxxx<mailto:TISHW@xxxxxxx> To: ELG440@xxxxxxx<mailto:ELG440@xxxxxxx> ;Cc: AsgardGermShep@xxxxxxx<mailto:AsgardGermShep@xxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Gathering Storm, and, a bill grows in California I printed out the article but haven't read it yet so probably shouldn't comment. But for the sake of discussion --- Carmen has been very concerned about the drop in AKC litter registrations and GSD registrations (all dogs really). The limited registration which AKC put into effect in the early 90s is responsible for some portion at least of the drop in registrations. It's not that limiting the gene pool is bad. It's the drop in litter and registration numbers that's a big concern. I've been keeping my charts on AKC/futurity registrations for over 15 years now and believe me, we do have a problem. Unfortunately, it is a complex problem with no simple answer. We've had a lot of changes in society in the last decade or so which make it more difficult for people to breed litters - especially large breed litters. It's an expensive hobby and it's a time consuming hobby which is hard to pursue these days with both adults working and there are children. Many of us "old timers" got started in obedience, got interested in the breed, and got hooked on breeding and conformation. I have a feeling that is not happening as much anymore. Those who go into the performance activities spend time with their dogs there and don't get into the breeding aspect. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth for today. I'll try and read the article later. Tish ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com<http://www.aol.com/>. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:admin@xxxxxxxxxxx>. VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org<http://www.showgsd.org/> ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================