[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Fwd: [gsdshowlist] Motion in the German Shepherd Dog
- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- To: janandmort@xxxxxxx, israelfriedberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:59:42 -0400 (EDT)
Actually the walk is one of the biggest factors for me picking a puppy. I
usually choose at the 5 week mark, watch until 6 weeks because my
companion puppies go to their homes at 8 weeks. By 5 weeks I can sit outside
and
watch and watch and watch. I am looking for balance on different terrain, a
"lion cub" type of walk. Obviously early on I can see things like
structure, bone, depth of body etc., but if I don't see that "lion cub"
movement
at a walk it's probably not a good one.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
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In a message dated 7/21/2011 9:03:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
janandmort@xxxxxxx writes:
I like to see the walk for the reasons I stated BUT faults are visible in
all phases.
We must not just judge on motion alone but consider all aspects of the dog
exhibited --the stand picture, coming and going, the walk and all phases
of the trot and of course temperament and character.
If a male looks like a female but has superb movement the breeding worth
is questionable and therefore must be penalized.
Males move differently than females but the qualities are the same.
So in direct answer to your question all factors are considered and the
walk is part of the equation.
Thank you for the post,
MG
What was was, what is is --but what was is and what is was!!
Morton Goldfarb
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Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fwd: [gsdshowlist] Motion in the German
Shepherd Dog
Thanks. I always wondered why judges walked the dogs. I still wonder a
bit. How can't you see a fault when they are gaiting, especially on a
loose
lead? Is there something you can see when they walk that you can't really
see when they gait on a loose lead?
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:02 PM
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fwd: [gsdshowlist] Motion in the German Shepherd Dog
This is my response to an e-mail for someone who read my post on movement
and commented on the point below.
Morton
Your post has some interesting comments and questions as well.
A loose lead is important for many reasons and I always as for it at some
point in my judging but not continuously as many judges do.
What I look for in the loose lead gait is what is going on in overall
dryness and how the shoulder assembly responds --that is does the dog fall
on the forehand---and what the middle piece is doing and the hindquarter
--does the dog kick out and how is the under reach or drive. I can usually
determine this in a few steps. After that I let the handler determine tight
or loose lease as they know their animal!!
As stated in my post I do not like the "racing gait" so often seen as this
is not the natural gait.
I do not believe that I will see faults in the fast gait that I have not
picked up in my evaluation previously--but everyone sees things
differently.
I will ask for a slightly faster gait or will ask the handler to let me see
their entry at what they think is the animals best gait and usually that is
not the breakneck speed that is so common. I often think this is done for
spectator support but???
The point about the front reach and how far it should extend was prefaced
by
"if the anatomy is correct" and that means length of neck,proper head
carriage and proper proportions of head to the rest of the anatomy. If the
head is lifted it will be affected in some cases but nothing is without
exception. Again there are exceptions to every nuance but in most cases if
the front foot reaches beyond the nose it is usually brought back to touch
the ground behind it's forward extension point.
The walk is a very important gait and in contradiction to your statement
that you rarely see the dog in a walk I see it all the time.
The walk also includes the pace and it is important for many reasons in my
judging.
Overall harmony is obvious, balance and proportions are easily seen, rear
drive and front extension are easily evaluated and after gaiting one can
see
in the walk overall dryness and ligament strength and especially looseness
in the fore assembly.
I am glad that you " don't mind being wrong occasionally" but I do not
think
you are wrong as this is the subjective aspect of evaluating objective
objects(German Shepherd Dogs).
I appreciate your opinion and hope that some knowledge will be gained by
these discussions!!
I have had great teachers who helped me learn about our wonderful Breed and
I am sorry to say they have all passed away and through many years of
continuous study hope that I can give what I know to those whose true
interest is the betterment of the German Shepherd Dog.
There is so much more to go over and if the interest is there then perhaps
we will!!
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