Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/21/2005 11:58:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, EKO LAN1 writes: > In order to get a 30 degree scapula lay back you must be measuring 30 > degrees from the vertical I measure and it is the correct way to measure > from the > horizontal. You draw an imaginary line through the center of the scapula to > the ground. 45 degrees is ideal and there are few more are closer to 60 > degrees than 45 . But if you measured a 30 degree angle through the scapula > to the > ground it would place the top of the shoulder somewhere in the middle of the > rib cage. > I guess we just disagree . But measuring my way has worked well for my > breeding plan for 50 years. I have bred a couple of good ones. > Fred Migliore > > > > > >> Hey Fred, folks on the line, Chuck is NOT misunderstanding anything. I >> have been known as a shoulder nut for 30 years..I understand the anatomy of >> the shoulder. For those of you taking offense to what I say, I dare you to >> go into your back yards and find me a 45 degree lay back shoulder blade.Yes >> you may find them but they are just the result of your dream..not measured >> with a measuring device to give you accuracy. I have devised a compas >> device >> with extended arms to follow the spine of the scapula and the vertical >> leg...My readings at most, on a few dogs, were 35 degrees...Look at the >> X-ray >> movies...they dont lie..a picture is worth a thousand words from the ?????. >> Chuck >> > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================