I think it has alot to do with the corn ect in the foods too. Alot of these foods are nothing but corn. The food that the people I had mentioned switched to is grain free and is a fish base(salmon) so there is no chicken or beef in it at all. So yes it could be that there may have been a chicken allergy or something like that but I still stand firm that corn should not be a first ingredient in dog foods or any ingredient for that matter. If you want info on the food I will gladly share but I DO NOT want to start a food war of any sort. I feed raw but I send my pups home on this food now because most people will not feed raw sadly and it is reasonable and VERY VERY good without the super high protien of some of the other grain free types. Rebecca Little Peakes Brook German Shepherds http://sites.centralpets.com/mammals/peakesbrookgsd/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: sheila lieberman To: pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fw: Re: [Germanshepherds4Show] Re: Re: 'Old dog' odor Food allergies are the single biggest cause of old dog smell and icky coat. Change the meat and often the problem goes away without even a bath. I have had this happen with several dogs. I change the meat, not the brand, and the dogs are fine. I have begun to allergy test my dogs for food only. Environmental allergins I refuse to deal with. That is what antihistimes are for. My dogs, from Liddy, all have a bad allergy to chicken. It is not allowed near the dogs, no matter what. I can use chicken liver for bait now and then, but more than that will cause gut problems and if I were to use it long enough, smelly, icky coat. Tell anyone who complains about the dog needing weekly baths cause they smell funny to either try switching the meat, or gettting the dog tested. sheila Rebecca Little <pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think that old dog smell has alot to do with the food/foods the dog eats. I have known a few different people who switched foods for that very reason and had great success. Rebecca Little Peakes Brook German Shepherds http://sites.centralpets.com/mammals/peakesbrookgsd/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================