oh Pat.....you have WAY too much time on your hands.....<G> Sadly not enough to copy and paste correctly. I cant even say I am flattered you think I "Mission Accomplished" anything, that in itself is an insult to Sam's intelligence, to suggest he can be swayed that easily. Please..... I never called Sam shady, we actually joked about that....it seems another lister googled his name, as they don't know Sam, and came across another Sam Israel, a real character, but not a member of the GSDCA. Then a bunch of people (myself included) posted that THIS Sam was indeed a good guy. You must've missed those positive posts. Yes, I think ALL the candidates for Officers position should present a letter at time of nomination that clearly explain their qualifications, and even more, if they are able to secure bonding, as they are dealing with the clubs money. Of course, it would help if the people nominating them made sure the candidates also are aware of the P&P. I did ask about Sam's qualifications...to Sam. And he kindly walked me thru all his expertise. So that was already old news by the time his post came out. <G>. SAD??? What is sad is that there is such division and infighting that it puts so many people off. I cant say I am close friends with neither Nadine or Sam, but I have known them both for a long time and believe the both of them to be independent thinkers and people of integrity. And to hear Sam continuous offer of support to the club confirms my feelings. Not sure what rainbows or butterflies you are talking about. Here we are getting ready for a major hurricane affecting our weather. I am sorry you are disappointed and having a bad day. This entire situation obviously bothers you a lot. Maybe now we can get back to the dogs. * Ileana * In a message dated 8/31/2010 12:00:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 8/31/10 7:01:55 AM, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx writes: > Pat, maybe you should read Sam's post again. He is willing to help the > club, and at this time he feels Nadine will do best staying as treasurer. > Seems > he doesn't want to be involved in the infighting (imagine that) and as > many have learned you don't need a title to help. > > I don't think is a sad day. I think it is a breath of fresh air to have > someone be this candid and real. > > But those of us who know Sam wouldn't expect any less of him. It is those > who don't know him who are surprised. > > * Ileana * > Sam is indeed a breath of fresh air, BUT what some on this list did to him and have done to our club is a very sad situation. It reflects the state of affairs into which our club has disintegrated. Even you, among others, questioned his qualifications. Do you recall posting this? â??I think a great idea would be to get a letter from the candidates confirming that they meet the criteria for the position they are running for, especially the Treasurer.â?? And how about this: â??Which Sam Israel is it, Pat? When I do a search, there are bunch of rather shady characters, and I am sure she is not one of these! Dorisâ?? Now that he's not pursuing the office of treasurer, everything is all rainbows and butterflies.â?? As I said in a previous post â??MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.â?? Yes, I read Sam's letter as least five times, did you not miss the part that read: â??Since being nominated, I learned about Nadine and then I got a quick lesson in the on-going battle between two factions.â?? And how about this part of his letter: â??With me helping her, I believe that no one should have any complaints. As to those people who question my qualifications to serve as treasurer, please don't tell me that you are acting for the best of the breed. 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