[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Feeds post

  • From: "Caggra@xxxxxxx" <caggra@xxxxxxx>
  • To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, foxhavengs@xxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx, vicki.roye@xxxxxxxxx, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:07:00 -0400 (EDT)

I am sorry, but I do not feel that winning Breeds (all breed or specialty) or 
Groups should qualify a dog for the Parade of Greats.  Best in Show maybe, but 
the other awards are too easily attainable and really, in my mind, does not 
qualify a dog as "great".  But maybe my definition of Great is different than 
others...

We do not want to keep lowering the bar and playing "limbo" with our quality 
standards.  In the end, the attempt to be more inclusive and expand our 
numbers, will only dilute our perceived existing quality.

Jeff Pyle
Windfall

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From: Pinehillgsds <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: foxhavengs <foxhavengs@xxxxxxx>; ELG440 <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; vicki.roye 
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Feeds post


No, that's not my point of view.

 was pointing out the inconsistency that some of the very same people (on  
his list) who had no problem at all with allowing dogs w/ DQs being  
warded  V/VX honors at our national having a HUGE problem with having  the 
arade of Greats expanded to include the dogs listed below.  (Denise,  currently 
they are NOT eligible).

 was also pointing out that in their haste, w/o studying all of the  
amifications of their (in my opinion ill conceived) vote, our board has  more 
han likely set us up for a dog with DQs one day being in the Parade of  GREAT 
ogs.

f we consider allowing some of the dogs I mentioned below in the parade, I 
dunno'...haven't given it a whole lot of thought.  I would think maybe a  
og in the top 5 to 10, perhaps dogs who have a certain number of "bests",  
aybe...I haven't thought it through, again, just pointing out the 
nconsistency  of and total lack of logic between the two arguments. 

athy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
elebrating generations  of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
isit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)   
 
n a message dated 3/15/2012 1:21:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
oxhavengs@xxxxxxx writes:
Sorry  but I am a little confused, so I wanted to make sure I read the 
-mail below  correctly. Your point of view is that if a GSD only shows in all 
reeds and  has won numerous BOB, Group Placements and BIS should not be 
llowed in the  parade of greats? Are dogs that only show or win in speciality 
r wins in both  shows can be in the parade of greats? 
I thought if a GSD that won  numerous awards it didn't matter if it was 
nly shown in all breeds, specialty  or both. Does it really matter where their 
wards and rankings are in  confirmation? I mean AKC has confirmation and 
o does the parent club are  separating the two now. 
I just wanted clarity. That's is  all
Thanks
enise Fox
enise Fox 
oxhavengs
ome of  GCH.Foxhaven Good Girl Gone Bad of Windfall (AKA Rihanna)
ent from my  Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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I was pointing out the lack of logic.   The other week folks were  fussing 
hat a dog who had "only" won  groups or "only got their GCH" would be  
llowed in the parade.   So now a dog with a DQ can enter? Guess the board  
idn't 
hink that  one through either....

athy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
elebrating  generations  of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
isit  _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)    

n a message dated 3/14/2012 11:14:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,  
LG440@xxxxxxx writes:

In a message dated  3/14/12 5:31:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
inehillgsds@xxxxxxx  writes:
Wonder  how many have read that section of the P   & P 
anual.   Guess that needs to be changed too because if  you are  going to 
ave a  
erformance V/VX and they are  invited to be in the parade, then  I  guess 
hites are now  allowed in the  parade. 

That would work just fine with  me.  I enjoy seeing who is the  highest 
core in the obedience  ring in the Parade.  I am proud of our  breed, no 
atter 
hat  color it is.
Evan  Ginsburg
sgard German Shepherds   
ttp://www.asgardgsd.com/
here Type Movement and Temperament   come together  

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