In a message dated 1/9/2006 8:44:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Lealynn@xxxxxxx writes: While I understand it is a dog "show", IMO a futurity is more. It's supposed to be a show of the best quality dogs we can produce. Not the best training job and /or handler we can afford. Until judges start judging the dog, nothing will change other than it will just get more expensive. Liz Liz, you've hit the nail on the head. I'm sitting w/ a nice litter here, and yes, I'll nominate in case the co-owner wants to go to a Futurity, but, for me, if it was a fun "puppy match" like event, all well and good, but Futurities have taken on the life of mini-nationals. Phone lines and internet connections hum re who is showing whom, who is on the dog (then sometimes off the dog, then back on the dog...). The hype takes on the life of a political campaign, and yes, very often the judges know who they're looking at. It filters to them and in some cases, it's openly discussed. (Been there, don't tell me I'm imagining it.) You have all sorts of gray areas re who can show under whom, who comes off a dog as a handler, who comes on/off as a co-owner, who's breeding it is that the judge may be judging (theirs?), and even if things are on the up and up, the appearance of gray areas leaves a bitter taste and too many questions. Then there's the dogs. Remember the dogs? As babies they're shuffled off to camp, learning how to be "show dogs", learning how to stand like a rock even if the judge does cartwheels up to them and falls on them. Silly? Probably, they're babies after all, and for what, so the owner can crow about "getting wood" when the class doesn't even fill? Later some will complain about how expensive it all is. A little training doesn't hurt, and I have two who need some (!!!), but I hope I'm smart enough to do it on their time and maturity schedule and not rush things. I don't blame the handlers for a minute. It's a free market and they charge what folks will pay. We rehash this every year. I got off the merry-go-round a while back. I'll let babies be babies thank you and I'll avoid the pre game nonsense and post game gossip and outrage. (And yes, I have those cute Purina pins for dogs nominated who have finished, so it's not like I would have brought pigs.) Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================