In a message dated 1/8/2006 10:48:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, marhaven@xxxxxxx writes: WHY have we lost our confidence in our animals and put it strictly into the hands of the top handlers?? When did we all lose control...... ~~~~~~~~~~ No offense judges, but we lost control when "some" judges, NOT ALL, starting judging the performance of the animal instead of the animal itself. Maybe "those" judges can only see performance and not quality? While I understand it is a dog "show", IMO a futurity is more. It's supposed to be a show of the best quality dogs we can produce. Not the best training job and /or handler we can afford. Until judges start judging the dog, nothing will change other than it will just get more expensive. Liz http://www.lealynn.com/ Websites by lealynn GSDCA member since 1976 Signers of the Breeders Code ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================